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    Mourning in America - Here's Those Layoffs We Voted For Last Night

    11/07/2012

    Last night's victory for the President marks the first time since its inception that Obamacare is no longer a what-if; it is the future of health care in America.  

    It also means a near immediate impact on the economy.  With 20 or so new or higher taxes set to be implemented, ranging from a $123 billion surtax on investment income, through the $20 billion medical device tax, all the way down to the $600 million executive compensation limit, Obamacare will be a nearly unbearable tax burden on the economy.

    Who will pay?  The middle-class workforce, of course.

    So with another four years for President Obama to look forward to, and the obvious inevitability of Obamacare that this entails, let's examine the very real jobs that will be lost, and the very real lives that will be affected.

    Welch Allyn

    Welch Allyn, a company that manufactures medical diagnostic equipment in central New York, announced in September that they would be laying off 275 employees, or roughly 10% of their workforce over the next three years.  One of the major reasons discussed for the layoffs was a proactive response to the Medical Device Tax mandated by the new healthcare law.

    Dana Holding Corp.

    As recently as a week ago, a global auto parts manufacturing company in Ohio known as Dana Holding Corp., warned their employees of potential layoffs, citing "$24 million over the next six years in additional U.S. health care expenses".  After laying off several white collar staffers, company insiders have hinted at more to come.  The company will have to cover the additional $24 million cost somehow, which will likely equate to numerous cuts in their current workforce of 25,500 worldwide.  

    Stryker

    One of the biggest medical device manufacturers in the world, Stryker will close their facility in Orchard Park, New York, eliminating 96 jobs in December.  Worse, they plan on countering the medical device tax in Obamacare by slashing 5% of their global workforce - an estimated 1,170 positions.

    Boston Scientific

    In October of 2009, Boston Scientific CEO Ray Elliott, warned that proposed taxes in the health care reform bill could "lead to significant job losses" for his company.  Nearly two years later, Elliott announced that the company would be cutting anywhere between 1,200 and 1,400 jobs, while simultaneously shifting investments and workers overseas - to China.

    Medtronic

    In March of 2010, medical device maker Medtronic warned that Obamacare taxes could result in a reduction of precisely 1,000 jobs.  That plan became reality when the company cut 500 positions over the summer, with another 500 set for the end of 2013.  

    Others

    A short list of other companies facing future layoffs at the hands of Obamacare:

    • Smith & Nephew - 770 layoffs
    • Abbott Labs - 700 layoffs
    • Covidien - 595 layoffs
    • Kinetic Concepts - 427 layoffs
    • St. Jude Medical - 300 layoffs
    • Hill Rom - 200 layoffs

    Beyond the complete elimination of a significant number of American jobs is another looming problem created by the health care law - a shift from full-time to part-time workers.

    Sean Hackbarth of Free Enterprise explains:

    A JP Morgan economist "points out that 8.3 million people are working in part-time jobs even though they'd prefer full-time work. Unfortunately, because of President Obama’s health care law, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), workers in the hotel, restaurant, and retail industries could be pushed into part-time jobs working less than 30 hours per week."

    "Under the health care law, if a company has more than 50 “full time equivalent” workers, a combination of full and part-time employees, but doesn’t offer “affordable” coverage that meets the government’s minimum value standard, the company will have to pay a penalty. This penalty is determined by the number of full-time employees minus 30 full-time employees. So to reiterate a very important point: part-time workers are not part of the penalty formula. The health care law creates a perverse incentive to hire part-time versus full-time workers."

    Tangible examples of Obamacare causing a reduction in full-time workers:

    Darden Restaurants

    According to the Orlando Sentinel, Darden Restaurants, a casual dining chain best known for their Red Lobster, Olive Garden and LongHorn Steakhouse restaurants, is "experimenting with limiting the hours of some of its workers to avoid health care requirements under the Affordable Care Act when they take effect in 2014".

    JANCOA Janitorial Services

    The CEO of JANCOA, Mary Miller, testified to Congress that Obamacare was a "dream killer", adding that one option she had to consider "is reducing the majority of my team members to part-time employment in order to reduce the amount that I will be penalized."

    Kroger

    The American retailer in Cincinnati, Ohio recently was reported to be planning a significant slashing of their hourly workers.  Doug Ross writes:

    Operative Faith (a mid-level manager with the company) reveals that Kroger will soon join the ranks of Darden Restaurants and slash the hours of its non-exempt (hourly) workers to avoid millions in Obamacare penalties.

    According to the source, Obamacare could result in tens of thousands of Kroger employees being limited to working 28 hours per week.

    Summary

    This is by no means, meant to be an exhaustive list.  But it is meant to provide examples of real companies, real jobs, and real names, soon to be added to the growing list of employment casualties provided by the inevitable implementation of Obamacare.

    Last night, America voted for four more years of President Obama and his destructive economic and health care policies.  By extension, America last night voted their approval of the aforementioned layoffs and overall work reduction.

    Now we must accept the inevitable.  Welcome to mourning in America.

    169 comments
    Jason Diaz
    11/09/2012

    $1,000,000,000,000 added to the deficit in 287 days...

    Ray Zohar
    11/09/2012

    Gail....ANYONE who doesnt support Obama is labelled a racist.....thats the only ignorance I see here.

    topcat_7
    11/09/2012

    Looks like you added your own racism here. And I don't know what they are teaching in math these days. Bush spent 4 trillion in 8 year. Obummer has already spent over 6 trillion and counting in less that 4 years. You can't spend your way out of debt. And the math I learned put Obummer spending much more that Bush did. Democrats need to suck it up and stop blaming everyone for their own mess. Oh, and for the last two years of the Bush years, democrats controlled both the house and the senate.

    Gail Coleman
    11/09/2012

    And the racism that oozes from this page is disgusting. If that's all you've got, I feel sorry for you-you are ignorant beyond a cure!

    Gail Coleman
    11/09/2012

    The Repugs were the ones who put the limits in place, to supposedly protect small business. So everyone quit whining. I'm not entirely happy with "Obamacare" either(like the madate) but no plan is perfect and it can be tweeked as needed in the future. Get over it-nearly 50 million people with no coverage is not acceptable.

    Craig Worrell
    11/09/2012

    I live in SW Virginia. Coal companies are starting to send out layoff notices, or calling workers to meetings where they will get the news. I'm sure the same is happening in West Virginia, Kentucky, Ohio, Pennsylvania.
    Bad times.

    Anthony Rodrigues
    11/09/2012

    You people can post your ignorance, hate, racist remarks and lies and still OBAMA will be our Leader!!!!

    Puddin Tame
    11/09/2012

    Your President, not mine. He is my enemy and the enemy of anyone who pays taxes, and hates evil. Clearly that excludes you, troll.

    James Jones
    11/09/2012

    As someone who probably hopped the fense,spent some time in a river before climbing out in the USA, he may be your leader but he is not mine. He may be the President, but he is no leader of any kind. He may have a cult following that voted him in, but if you are old enough to remember Guyana and Jim Jones, you know what happens to cult members in the end. Just won't happen soon enough. I can only hope that all the companies that are planning layoffs have a wayh to figure out who the cult members are and get rid of them first.

    EON59
    11/09/2012

    St. Jude just announced another 500 would be laid off. I am a business owner. My company is 18 years old and one of the two largest in my market. 50 percent of my clients from 2008 are out of business. Come February this list will look so small. The patients are incharge of the insame asylum, and to those from the left who now want us all to be Americans, you own this economy and the loss of our country. When Obama said this was not a Christian Nation, not enough of us called to prove him wrong. God Help US! America died in 2008 and was buried in 2012.

    Edward von Richthoven
    11/09/2012

    I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO happy....there goes American medicine advancement....fantastic!!! Just what the 47%ers ordered.

    Daisy K
    11/10/2012

    I read almost all the comments posted here. I don't know what to think anymore, but i know that time will come soon, and most of us will be divided somehow. I am already feeling sick of what is going on. Let's hope we still have internet to chat. Thank goodness my husband is self employed with his own business. I know that time will come and we just all need to be prepared. Hate to say this, but i hope those that voted for obama gets laid off first. They deserve it.

    James Robinson
    11/09/2012

    I employ over 400 employees in the Reading PA area. I just communicated to my HR Manager that all medical benefits will cease at our renewal date of 12/15/123 and not to entertain a renewal offer from the inurance company. In addition on Feb 20th, 2013 I have just today informed my staff that I plan on laying off 100 individuals to pay for the taxes, increased costs, and other funds I will have to spend due to Obama's proposed policies, Obamacare, and new regulations. As PA and the Reading area voted overwhelmingly for Obama, all I have to say is watch what you wish for, you might get it!

    PS: If I catch any crap, or see damage or vandilisim to my property, I will gladly close up shop, lay off everyone, and move to a right to work state in the south.

    Richie Beazley
    11/09/2012

    Hang in their James Robinson !! I understand your pain , The REAL DEPRESSION IS COMING ...And its not going to be good.

    Kathy Chenette
    11/09/2012

    James Robinson.....come to Charlotte!!
    NC has finally smartened up...and elected a great conservative governor.
    It is the bright star in an overcast night.

    Jenna McCoy
    11/09/2012

    West Atlanta meaning Douglasville and surrounding areas :)

    Jenna McCoy
    11/09/2012

    You could always move to GA, West Atlanta is red all over, and could use the jobs!

    James Jones
    11/09/2012

    I would hope that you seriously consider moving your company south to a right to work state. Just be sure to look at the county by county breakdown of which way each county voted. As here in Texas, there are a number of blue countys even though most of the state is Red. They are pretty easy to figure out, just look where the very poor live and look where english is a 2nd language and you will know where to stay out of. Good luck with keeping your business afloat. I have looked at reopening my business, but then decided to wait, sure glad I did. I may still open back up but it will not be in the USA as this country needs life support but will not get it soon enough to keep it from expiring. Besides spanish, better learn chinese and then start on the Arab languages. There will be very little english spoken in just a few short years.It's true this will no longer be a "white" country. You could say the darker folks truly screwed us out of our country. With their average 6-8 kids to the white's 2, it didn't take long to out produce a majority. Especially when the white folks were forced to support all the population created by this group. i feel sorry for my kids and grandkids, me I'm too old to worry about it. I'll just try to get out of the country to live before the Obamacare system takes away my medical because I'm too old.

    Edward von Richthoven
    11/09/2012

    Bravo...bravo!!!!! Send them all packing..maybe they can get parttime jobs wiping Obama's butt.

    Jack Fisher
    11/09/2012

    What Happened on Tuesday was simple, I call it the Alexis de Tocqueville effect.
    “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democra...cy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
    ― Alexis de Tocqueville
    Last night we passed the tipping point.
    I actually have hope for this country. Just as Obama had to tell the american people that the jobs were not as shovel ready as he thought. There will come a day (soon) when he will have to look at those people on the public dole and say I know I promised it, but there is no more money for you, we have run out of other peoples money to give you. Then it will be the democrats that will be vilanized as people realize that what the liberals have been doing for decades is simply a shell game. The game will stop when their lies are laid bare and they are exposed, socialism has and will never work as a sustainable for of governance. You will always run out of other peoples money to spend. The sad part is that the people who voted for him, the ones addicted to the public trough, are the ones who will fall the farthest and the hardest with no one to blame other than themselves and the democratic party for living under an illusion. And they will be despised by future generations for their greed and the massive debt that it will leave behind. Obama will preside over the crash of our economy and he will not be able to blame bush, it will all be on his shoulders and he will crumble under that weight.

    Amber Penkszyk
    11/09/2012

    Well said Jack!

    Jenna McCoy
    11/09/2012

    The people voted for Bread and circuses. Robert A. Heinlein wrote about this very thing in several of his novels. He was quite prophetic.

    steve hansmeyer
    11/09/2012

    Where was this artical last week (before the election)?

    Dave Pool
    11/09/2012

    Good question.

    Deanne Lockwood
    11/09/2012

    I agree with Willshaker, well said. The Patriots that I worked with during Tea Parties and other planning were ALL ethnicities. I'm tired of one or two RACIST people speaking on behalf of all Conservatives. You just give credence to The Liberal Media that all conservatives are racist.
    They actually don't make it up, they just find the ones who are and highlight them.
    I'm glad the libs are facing their pay day so quickly though I bet they will lie and fudge the numbers again.

    Keith Putman
    11/12/2012

    So, true. I still suspect he's a plant.

    Mark Rubin
    11/09/2012

    Dont get me wrong by what I am about to say. I'm conservative and share in the sentiment that we gotr a big fiscal problem and a federal governemt out of control. But one problem I see with the GOP is that they seem to say all the time that the American people are smart. That they will understand. Well the truth is the American people are either stupid or selfishly ignorant. We need leadership that can express the consequenses of our economic ruin in simple and very frieghtening terms so even the dumbest among us has a chance to grasp the issue. As for compromise...sure if the other side is willing to back off and not jump off the bridge. But you do not compromise on double suicide. You have got to convince the other not to jump and do not agree to jump with them. That is dumb compromise.

    Dave Pool
    11/09/2012

    Mark Rubin - I agree with you completely about the American people being stupid or selfishly ignorant and want to add to that list lazy. When re-entering college my disappointment in the American people was disheartening because my classmates had no idea how to do simple math, write a paper, or discipline to learn because it took effort. My question was why were they in college courses and how did they get there? That was when I truely started worrying about the future of our country. Now many years later my worry is the reality.

    How do you explain to people that refuse to put forth the effort to learn that big government, raising taxes, and entitlements take away from the economy, hurt business, and reduce jobs? How can the people be convinced that the santa claus government that answers every problem with a handout will end with implosion? America was not built on the people looking to the government to fix their personal problems. America was built on hard working, long-suffering, God fearing people that worked for every penny earned, were grateful for what they have, and had no expectation of being given anything that wasn't earned.

    I have two sons in the military that are both multi-war veterans, husbands, and fathers. I couldn't be more proud of them. My prayers are that the country they are fighting for will still be recognizable, offering the successful rewards of hard work and determination when their children are grown.

    J Harvey Whitehead
    11/09/2012

    Hmmm... who knew? The gov can tax and regulate the heck out of business and entrepreneurs, but the gov cannot make 'em employ folks. The gov cannot prevent 'em from shipping jobs to more friendly locales. The gov cannot prevent 'em from closing plants or shutting down altogether. Has Atlas shrugged?

    Lynn Davis
    11/09/2012

    I've talked to numerous local small businesses and found that several are handing on by their teeth, one to close for sure. I find this sad that after 50+ years, family small businesses will have to either cut employees or close. Socialism at its best.
    What I find is the hardest to comprehend, is the amount of hatred from the left and those that support this regime. I personally hate no one. It's not worth my time and energy- there are many I pity, dislike and/or choose not to interact with. Mind you, that does not mean I will not defend myself either. Praying we can survive the next 4 years and still have a country that resembles the one that he took over in 2008...

    Crash Froelich
    11/09/2012

    The impacts of the AHA are going to depress economic activity, the impacts of allowing the current tax rates to expire are going to depress economic activity, the enforcement of phony greenhouse gas regulations is going to depress economic activity, the Sequestration is going to depress economic activity, current Dodd-Frank banking requlations are depressing economic activity, the national debt is depressing economic activity, the burgeoning expense of entitlement/welfare payments is depressing economic activity, and on and on. Every day the dollar is worth less and so is my retirement account. Obama tells me the best is yet to come. Does that mean the AHA rationing board is going to insure my remaining lifespan is sufficiently short to avoid the personal financial disaster for me that's looming on the horizon? Gee, thanks, Barry.

    ObamaWorks
    11/09/2012

    I am so happy that Obama won. Especially for dick heads like Ranny Lane. It is ok to have a difference of opinion but to make remarks like that are uncalled for. If you shake your family tree you might be surprised.

    Alan Ker
    11/09/2012

    Obama's golfing and partying with Beyonce? Sounds like fun!

    So what're you complaining about? After all, he's the President and his salary, and 'perks' such as free food, transportation, housing and entertainment are paid for by you and taxpayers in general.

    Now get back to work so he can get his fair share of your redistributed earnings.

    Young Conservative
    11/09/2012

    I'm just curious, how does "Obama Work"? $16+ trillion in debt, 7.9% unemployment (and who knows now with this Obamacare), 49 million on food stamps, 50% of recent college unable to find jobs, and gas prices that are through the roof...how is that working for you? It just doesn't add up. America lost its chance for real leadership, because let's face it. When Obama isn't trying to "fundamentally transform" the United States (which is dangerous...it means to change this country's very basics), he's out having a good old time golfing and having parties with Jay-Z and Beyonce. That's working hard, isn't it? Give me a break...

    jandcbinkerd
    11/09/2012

    And this is what the socialists (aka liberals) on FB are saying in regard to the economy and layoffs. http://www.upworthy.com/the-complete-guide-of-what-to-blame-for-our-debt...
    It's Bushs fault. :(. Conservatives are terrible with defense. So it has done me no good to post the layoff news. They always have a come back. We need knew tactics

    Al Kimball
    11/15/2012

    Shelby, you are 100% correct and I have preached this as well, but what we are facing are uneducated or "mis-educated" fools. When I gave this reasoning to my own daughter, she responded with an article of 80 documented lies of Romney, which I read and yeah, it was all hogwash. We need to fix education, but how? I'm doubtful we can do that....I feel that all we can do it take care of our own now. We have crossed the threshold.

    Richie Beazley
    11/09/2012

    Well said !!!

    Shelby Sumpter
    11/09/2012

    Here is what they left out....

    This tells the story, why Bush was so bad at the end of his term.

    Some people aren't aware of all of this. Don't just skim over this,
    please read it slowly and let it sink in. If in doubt, check it out.

    The day the democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009, it was
    actually January 3, 2007... the day the Democrats took over the House
    of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of ......the 110th
    Congress.

    The Democrat Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first
    time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.

    For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy
    that everything is "Bush's Fault", think about this:
    January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and
    the Congress. At the time:

    The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
    The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
    The Unemployment rate was 4.6%

    George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of
    JOB GROWTH
    Remember the day...

    January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House
    Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate
    Banking Committee.

    The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of
    the economy?
    BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

    Unemployment... to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6
    TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and
    Freddie Mac FIASCOES!

    Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie - starting in
    2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy.

    And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac?
    OBAMA
    And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?
    OBAMA and the Democrat Congress
    So when someone tries to blame Bush..

    REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007.... THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!"
    Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress, and
    the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democrat
    Party.

    Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 &
    2009 as well as 2010 & 2011.
    In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused
    them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough
    on spending increases.

    For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush
    entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running
    until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a
    massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budgets.

    And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that
    very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he
    signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009.

    If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the
    last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five
    years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that,
    Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes
    Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.

    If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself. In a
    nutshell, what Obama is saying is "I inherited a deficit that I voted
    for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January
    20th."

    John Van Effen
    11/08/2012

    I'm one of those other defense contractors. I work for BAE Systems and have yet to see that pink slip that according to law should have come out on Nov 2. There are several contractors that were "told" by the administration that they would cover their legal fees to just hold off on those notices and basically screw their loyal employees. I'm so happy I could sh*^*

    Kelly England O'Hara
    11/08/2012

    It may be/sound bitter and vindictive....BUT I hope the people who got him back in office are the first to get laid off and I HOPE they really enjoy all their CHANGE as they move FORWARD to the Land of Entitlements....

    Robert Newkirk
    11/10/2012

    In response to Rachel Burly comment. I feel sorry for you since you are so blind that you cannot see that Obama is a Socialist ,Marxist and wants to tear this country appart. He has by=passed Congress over 150 times, usurped the Constitution so many times I can't remember. He has constantly lied to the American people on scandles such as Fast and Furisous, his foreign policies favor the muslims and terrorists, and he is not securing our southern boarders as to secure our national security. if your the type of person that enjoys Socialism, and Marxism do us true Americans a huge favor MOVE TO RUSSIA, CHINA, SYRIA, IRAN. I think you would be more comfortable there. Either that or expect that someday you will have a bullet put between your eyes!!!!!!

    Richard Hamburg
    11/08/2012

    The problem is, the more that get on Entitlements of any kind (welfare, food stamps, extended unemployment, etc.) will make it much harder to get our country back. What we saw in this election is a take over of our country by lazy freeloaders who put nothing into the country but want to drain everything out. People who are more interested in a free ride than their own freedom. They think they are getting revenge on the hard working, successful person by forcing them to pay for the lazy unaccomplished ones. That is Socialism. What they fail to see is once you run out of people who pay their way (The Tax Payer), Communism is right behind. Then, all their freebies, come to a stretching halt.

    Deb Hogle
    11/08/2012

    November 6, 2012 is a very sad day in American history.

    D Richardson
    11/09/2012

    The 300+ point sell off is a beginning of bad economic news. Doom, Boom and Gloom Investor Guru spoke from Hong Kong and predicted more triple digit drops, more layoffs and more companies making the decision to do business abroad. Part time employment is about to become a fact of life. People will start to work two 28 hour jobs, if they can find them. When they used the slogan "lean forward" they really meant lean over.

    Bryan Horton
    11/09/2012

    I guess I am unable to edit my post and thought I would have a chance to preview/edit before it actually posted. Posting again to correct several grammatical issues before someone blasts me and dismisses my statements based off of some trivial issue (compared to the topic matter) such as a misspelling.

    Leaving out any comments on other matters, Jay William is correct on his thought of stocking up. It us unclear to me when or how soon one would have to rely on what they have set back, but the wise and prudent should be making provisions and be able to protect the same - of this I am certain. This is not hard to calculate. A system devised such as the direction we are now and are heading simply cannot last. All the remains to know is how bad the fall-out will be and who will be most hard hit You don't need a mathematical degree to see this and all the rhetoric in the world of supposed wise minds will not stop this certainty. 2-15=25 just dose not work no matter how you argue it. When you take from a smaller number to feed a larger, you end up in the negative.

    Bryan Horton
    11/09/2012

    Leaving out any comments on other matters, Jay William is correct on his thought of stocking up. It us unclear to me when or how soon one would have to rely on what they have set back, but the wise and prudent should be making provisions and be able to protect the same - of this I am certain. This is not hard to caculate. A system architected such as the direction we are now and are heading simply cannot last. All the remains to know is how bad the fall-out will be and who will be most hard hit You don't need a mathmatecial degree to see this and all the rhetoric in the world of supposed wise minds will not stop this certainty. 2-15=25 just dose not work no matter how you argue it. When you take from a smaller number to feed a larger, you end up in the negative.

    Keenan Fletcher
    11/08/2012

    Medicare will be a thing of the past in 2-3 years now all we have to look foward to is death panels for the seniors 6-9 month wait for procedures this is socialized medicine go talk to a Canadian .
    “…..men do not think. Make the lie BIG, make it Simple, keep it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they WILL BELIEVE IT!” – Adolf Hitler
    Not long before we goosestep Jay is right get prepared.

    Phyllis Boyse
    11/08/2012

    What is REALLY going to happen to us on Medicare now?????? I still don't understand the full workings of it - but then again none of congress understands it either and have yet to read it, but they passed it anyway. But see - they are not bound by obamacare - we the general public pay their medical health insurance - which is against most of us wanting to - but we have no choice.

    Jay William Weed
    11/08/2012

    I have to say as I was growing up I hated most of the things my father would say to me. But now in my advanced age of 59 all that he tried to warn me about has come true this year. My father used to leave John Birch material on my bed to read, this was in 1965, and I glanced over it but never got the concept of their message as I was to smart for them. Gosh they wanted the USA out of the UN back then and warned about the loss of freedom and liberties of citizens of an socialist government...who knew? Now with the election of this communist and his cohorts it is up to us to revolt just like the founders. Screw the 47% stock up on arms, ammunition, fuel and food. I do not say this lightly as the end is near and food riots will happen. Plan for all the people you hold dear as to give them safe haven and comfort . I can't tell you when this will happen but it will. Surround yourself with like minded people you trust as always its strength in numbers.

    Erick Smith
    11/08/2012

    You forgot to mention: Boeing, Lockheed Martin and other defense contractors!

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