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Mourning in America - Here's Those Layoffs We Voted For Last Night

Last night's victory for the President marks the first time since its inception that Obamacare is no longer a what-if; it is the future of health care in America.  

It also means a near immediate impact on the economy.  With 20 or so new or higher taxes set to be implemented, ranging from a $123 billion surtax on investment income, through the $20 billion medical device tax, all the way down to the $600 million executive compensation limit, Obamacare will be a nearly unbearable tax burden on the economy.

Who will pay?  The middle-class workforce, of course.

So with another four years for President Obama to look forward to, and the obvious inevitability of Obamacare that this entails, let's examine the very real jobs that will be lost, and the very real lives that will be affected.

Welch Allyn

Welch Allyn, a company that manufactures medical diagnostic equipment in central New York, announced in September that they would be laying off 275 employees, or roughly 10% of their workforce over the next three years.  One of the major reasons discussed for the layoffs was a proactive response to the Medical Device Tax mandated by the new healthcare law.

Dana Holding Corp.

As recently as a week ago, a global auto parts manufacturing company in Ohio known as Dana Holding Corp., warned their employees of potential layoffs, citing "$24 million over the next six years in additional U.S. health care expenses".  After laying off several white collar staffers, company insiders have hinted at more to come.  The company will have to cover the additional $24 million cost somehow, which will likely equate to numerous cuts in their current workforce of 25,500 worldwide.  


One of the biggest medical device manufacturers in the world, Stryker will close their facility in Orchard Park, New York, eliminating 96 jobs in December.  Worse, they plan on countering the medical device tax in Obamacare by slashing 5% of their global workforce - an estimated 1,170 positions.

Boston Scientific

In October of 2009, Boston Scientific CEO Ray Elliott, warned that proposed taxes in the health care reform bill could "lead to significant job losses" for his company.  Nearly two years later, Elliott announced that the company would be cutting anywhere between 1,200 and 1,400 jobs, while simultaneously shifting investments and workers overseas - to China.


In March of 2010, medical device maker Medtronic warned that Obamacare taxes could result in a reduction of precisely 1,000 jobs.  That plan became reality when the company cut 500 positions over the summer, with another 500 set for the end of 2013.  


A short list of other companies facing future layoffs at the hands of Obamacare:

  • Smith & Nephew - 770 layoffs
  • Abbott Labs - 700 layoffs
  • Covidien - 595 layoffs
  • Kinetic Concepts - 427 layoffs
  • St. Jude Medical - 300 layoffs
  • Hill Rom - 200 layoffs

Beyond the complete elimination of a significant number of American jobs is another looming problem created by the health care law - a shift from full-time to part-time workers.

Sean Hackbarth of Free Enterprise explains:

A JP Morgan economist "points out that 8.3 million people are working in part-time jobs even though they'd prefer full-time work. Unfortunately, because of President Obama’s health care law, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), workers in the hotel, restaurant, and retail industries could be pushed into part-time jobs working less than 30 hours per week."

"Under the health care law, if a company has more than 50 “full time equivalent” workers, a combination of full and part-time employees, but doesn’t offer “affordable” coverage that meets the government’s minimum value standard, the company will have to pay a penalty. This penalty is determined by the number of full-time employees minus 30 full-time employees. So to reiterate a very important point: part-time workers are not part of the penalty formula. The health care law creates a perverse incentive to hire part-time versus full-time workers."

Tangible examples of Obamacare causing a reduction in full-time workers:

Darden Restaurants

According to the Orlando Sentinel, Darden Restaurants, a casual dining chain best known for their Red Lobster, Olive Garden and LongHorn Steakhouse restaurants, is "experimenting with limiting the hours of some of its workers to avoid health care requirements under the Affordable Care Act when they take effect in 2014".

JANCOA Janitorial Services

The CEO of JANCOA, Mary Miller, testified to Congress that Obamacare was a "dream killer", adding that one option she had to consider "is reducing the majority of my team members to part-time employment in order to reduce the amount that I will be penalized."


The American retailer in Cincinnati, Ohio recently was reported to be planning a significant slashing of their hourly workers.  Doug Ross writes:

Operative Faith (a mid-level manager with the company) reveals that Kroger will soon join the ranks of Darden Restaurants and slash the hours of its non-exempt (hourly) workers to avoid millions in Obamacare penalties.

According to the source, Obamacare could result in tens of thousands of Kroger employees being limited to working 28 hours per week.


This is by no means, meant to be an exhaustive list.  But it is meant to provide examples of real companies, real jobs, and real names, soon to be added to the growing list of employment casualties provided by the inevitable implementation of Obamacare.

Last night, America voted for four more years of President Obama and his destructive economic and health care policies.  By extension, America last night voted their approval of the aforementioned layoffs and overall work reduction.

Now we must accept the inevitable.  Welcome to mourning in America.

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John Cupach

Well I think the best thing to do now is boycott these businesses that are 'once again' trying weasel their way out of doing their fair share. I know it's a burden for these multibillion dollar companies to make only 999 million but maybe if we can cut into the bottom line they will change their policies. I know how the rich love to exploit every single loophole possible to keep their workers impoverished so they can whine about paying taxes for food stamps and such for these people.


Just a short note... Mr. Ken Sullivan commented earlier on this topic. He seems like an OWS cheerleader for bashing corporations and people who work to earn a profit. I only took time to look up his one gripe... Darden Restaurants made $2 billion in profits. I didn't delve too deeply into their corporate report, because I didn't understand all of it; I'm an electrician, but not an accountant. But, I do know mathematics well; and a $2 billion profit sounds vast, but when you see that profit divided among 263.6 million shares (130.1million basic, 133.2 diluted ) you get a stock payout of $8 per share. Fairly piddling, unless you own gobs of stock. BUT... I do not know where Mr. Sullivan pulled that number from, because according to the 2012 Report to Shareholders, Dardens net earnings were $476.5 million, and the net earnings per share were $3.65 and $3.57 each, basic and diluted (I don't know what the difference is; if they overlap, just add the totals). They also state that they paid a dividend of $1.72 per share. As I alluded to earlier, if you have a dumptruck full of stocks, woo-hoo! If not, if you're like my Dad who owns about 350 shares of various stocks, you have enough profit to get a budget shop to rebuild your 12 year old transmission. But that's just it... Most companies aren't Apple (why don't the OWS types picket THEM?... they pay dirt wages in China to workers with no healthcare at all! But, wait, they loveloveLOVE their Iphones) and don't have an obscene profit margin. They just have a steady, constant profit (Darden netted 6% for FY2012!) divided among millions of stockholders.
So, I call BS on you, Mr. Sullivan.
BTW, how much did Apple pay in taxes? Or GE, the employer of Obama's Green Czar? Maybe ask Warren Buffet to pay more taxes; or maybe just ask him to stop fighting the IRS and PAY the government the $1.76 Billion that Berkshire-Hathaway owes instead of paying it to your army of lawyers to weasel out of it.

wayne boothby

This is to all the IDIOTS, MORONS, LIBRITARDS, ULTRA CONSERVATIVES and MOUTH BREATHERS that continually post slanted and biased political statements:

They are both liars and swindlers; I am a moderate, a middle of the spectrum individual. I am neither Red nor Blue but a combination of the two. Being of the centrist, I also agree that the Republican choice was sleazy and did not represent the regular person in any way shape or form, his choice of running mate was totally scary. He lies and had no real plan for fixing anything…..But the Democrat is not any better; they are taxing and spending the middle right out of existence. When all the new taxes hit and people start a new round of bankruptcies and foreclosures because they were taxed out of their homes….The new word for the American worker will be under-employed with many working 2 jobs that total somewhere around 40 hours a week, have to pay the tax for not having insurance themselves and have a bleaker outlook on their future. It just amazes me that so many hear exactly what they want to hear….Let me recount some of the falsehoods related by our President starting with his campaign to present……

1. “I promise 100% transparency during my administration”
2. “I Promise no new taxes on a family making less than 250K a year”
3. “I will personally remove earmarks from Pork Barrel spending before I sign any bill”
4. “I will allow 5 days of public forum prior to signing any bill”
5. “I will end income taxes on seniors making less than 50K a year”
6. “I will put HealthCare negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table”
7. “I will bring all troop’s home within one year”
8. “I will close Gitmo”
9. “I will have no lobbyists in my administration”
10. “I will resign if I don’t cut the deficit in half by the end of 4 years”
11. “I will unite the people of this great nation”

As of this date he has yet to keep a single promise, so I reply that every career politician is the root of our problems. There was a reason he was teaching, those that can, do, those that can’t teach!

John Horn

It's interesting to note that where I live, Canada,we have national socialized Medicare, and yet none of the dire consequences referenced in these discussions have come to pass,in fact our economy is stronger than the US and our health outcomes are better. It would seem that we are an ongoing refutation of much of the commentary posted here. We are also, according to the OECD, more free than the US. Canadian employers don't face the health care costs that seem to alarm many of the employers who have commented on Obamacare, arguably this makes them more competitive and efficient. Help me understand why socialized medicine is such bad thing?

wayne boothby

Because Canada and the rest of the world raised taxes to pay for the healthcare, Obamacare is resting the burden on the employers to pay.....

monica fetters

I spent all of election night upset over what was coming, I was angry at those who voted Obama back into office, a couple days later I started to look at how do we fix this, we are unfortunatly stuck now with four more years of this guy, but here is what needs to be done... We need to make it clear to the RNC that we want them to put forth a candidate next time that can win, we need to get the message to them that they need to come more to the center on social issues , if they can't do that we won't have a chance. They need to do what Obama did and keep the voter registration offices open, get their ground game going now, they need to come to the center on immigration, and abortion. Romney is a good man , but they painted themselves into a corner and handed the left many points to attack him on which gave them the upper hand. That is how their machine works in principle... its a tried and true Saul Aulinski tactic... get people angry over certain issues and they will fight the battle for you... 1 War on women, the mormon religion has a male first women second mentality there for he was against equal rights, 2 Gay marriage again by his own religion gay marriage isnt respected , so he is against gays, same with abortion he said right on his web site he would repeal row v wade, that tells women he is taking away their rights thus war on women. this gave them all the ammunition to allow them to frame their arguments. then when he had the opportunity to defend his stand on the rail road pension in the debates, he did not do it.. George Soros spent millions getting word out through the Union that Romney was going to adhere to Paul Ryans idea to take over the rail road pensions that was not true, but Romney never made that clear so now you have that group voting against the republican ticket. We need to be angry at the RNC for not putting a campain together that will unify people the way Obama did. Thats where we as the people can make a difference write to the RNC tell them they need to do better, not to paint themselves into a corner come more to the center on social issues and not put idiots on a ticket that come out and say the womans body knows when its been raped and does not get pregnant because of it. Use your voice...I will.

Merry Beans

Exactly! I couldn't vote for Romney because I really, really like having reproductive rights and equal rights for women, and Romney didn't represent those values. He was just too right-wing on social issues. So no matter how much sense his economic views might have made, I'm not going to vote for someone who takes my rights away. Give me someone who is more centrist on social issues and still has a conservative fiscal policy and then you might get me to vote for them. Till then I'm stuck voting for Obama, whether I actually like Obama or not, just because he isn't actively trying to take my rights away. The RNC needs to give us a candidate we can vote for. Don't blame the voters, blame the crappy candidates we had to pick from.

Matt Nguyen

Half of this country today has forgotten (or was never educated) about the founding principles that have made this country great -- individual liberty, self-reliance, self-determination, limited government -- and has accepted the liberal/socialist mantra of big government taking care of their every needs, thus surrendering their God-given liberties to this despotic tyranny! We must fight and bring these ideals back if we are to save this country, friends.

This is the conclusion of Alexis de Tocqueville nearly 180 years ago on his visit to America to observe our Democracy. He described the process by which tyranny takes hold in a democratic society, and it is exactly what is happening to the US right now!

Chapter VI: What Sort Of Despotism Democratic Nations Have To Fear...

"I seek to trace the novel features under which despotism may appear in the world. The first thing that strikes the observation is an innumerable multitude of men, all equal and alike, incessantly endeavoring to procure the petty and paltry pleasures with which they glut their lives. Each of them, living apart, is as a stranger to the fate of all the rest; his children and his private friends constitute to him the whole of mankind. As for the rest of his fellow citizens, he is close to them, but he does not see them; he touches them, but he does not feel them; he exists only in himself and for himself alone; and if his kindred still remain to him, he may be said at any rate to have lost his country.

Above this race of men stands an immense and tutelary power, which takes upon itself alone to secure their gratifications and to watch over their fate. That power is absolute, minute, regular, provident, and mild. It would be like the authority of a parent if, like that authority, its object was to prepare men for manhood; but it seeks, on the contrary, to keep them in perpetual childhood: it is well content that the people should rejoice, provided they think of nothing but rejoicing. For their happiness such a government willingly labors, but it chooses to be the sole agent and the only arbiter of that happiness; it provides for their security, foresees and supplies their necessities, facilitates their pleasures, manages their principal concerns, directs their industry, regulates the descent of property, and subdivides their inheritances: what remains, but to spare them all the care of thinking and all the trouble of living?

Thus it every day renders the exercise of the free agency of man less useful and less frequent; it circumscribes the will within a narrower range and gradually robs a man of all the uses of himself. The principle of equality has prepared men for these things; it has predisposed men to endure them and often to look on them as benefits."

Mike Mays

There comes a time when discussion about whether the Titanic is half full or half empty becomes irrelevant. It is time to pick your life boat and start paddling. Whatever route you choose, do so with passion.

For me, I feel like America flat lined on Nov 6th, 2012. At least the America I knew. Now I will take care of my own, fight for liberty, and trust that God has a plan to restore us if we wake up to the foundation we were built on.


I’m probably not the only one thinking about the false premise that Obamacare is causing mass layoffs. In my opinion, we first need to understand the context of these assertions. Politics is played with numbers, correlations, and targeting of emotionally sensitive areas in Main Street, America. This is why government first selects truncation of school budgets, fire and police protection, and social programs that are all political buttons that may be pressed to argue for maintaining a high rate of taxation.

Likewise, the notion that Obamacare is causing massive layoffs is a sham; a shell game. People who buy into this logic must also be vulnerable to infomercials.

I am not fluent in Latin, but in context with some subjects it just sounds authoritative and conclusive. In this case, I’m talking about how we reach conclusions and how we can be sold on false premises (or spurious correlations). Logic, science, and statistics all must pass a test for “false cause” or “questionable cause” by which two events that occur together are taken to have a cause-and-effect relationship. The logical fallacy is also known in debate terminology as “cum hoc ergo propter hoc”, meaning if it is "with this, therefore [it is] because of this". Similarly, the assumption that an event that follows another was a consequence of the first, is sometimes described as “post hoc ergo propter hoc” implying “[if it happened] after this, [it must] therefore [be] because of this”

History, economic data, and logical thinking require that we NOT infer these correlations as cause and effect. It is a form of intentional rationalization or denial if one easily buys into this notion. However, the data does not adequately disprove the relationship as of yet as there are so many variables to consider. The overall costs, benefits, and cause and effects will take years to sift through before we can claim (with any statistical confidence) the cause and effect. This assertion (assumption) is not a logical one

joe flambe

Companies will cut hours or not hire on permanent employees just to NOT give out benefits. Most large corporations do this already by HIRING CONTRACTORS.

Because the GOP does not have THEIR SHIT together is the reason, the DUMB Mormon didn't win.

Romney = biggest travesty since Bush.

TEA PARTY helped by not getting seats in Congress. ROFL


Republicans are REALLY DUMB, most are CLOSET Homosexuals, look at the track record of the Republican Politicians and their GAY AFFAIRS.


mark buchanan

Unfortunately, this outcome of business reaction was predictable. As Americans we have 2 things working against us. Socialism is very attractive to those that believe that they are somehow victims of society and seek to use the overwhelming force of government to right the supposed wrongs they feel in their lives. The power mad monsters love this because it feeds their power. When you add that feeling to the fact that our young people are largely uneducated including those that have spent small fortunes going to college, you end up with people that not only do not understand the concept of individual Liberty but are actually willing to trade it in for some sort of shiny promise that a tyrant is dangling in front of them. The promise of a free-lunch, that will never happen. The only winner in socialism/communism is the ruling elite who run the show, everyone of us will loose regardless of who we voted for individually. Our only courses of action now are to wait for the end and fight to stay alive individually as the house of cards falls in upon itself or attempt to secede from this monster in DC which will likely be met with a brutal fight as well. They cannot allow the productive real American go off on his own, they need us to support and pay for the all the drones they've created. God help us! The road ahead is very rough indeed.

Joseph Calitri

The blame belongs on both the people who voted for B. Hussein AND the several million who just stayed home on election day. There is never ANY excuse for not voting! The most absurd oxymoron is the one which called Romney a liar while ignoring the facts that B. Hussein broke every 2008 campaign promise he made and most recently claimed the Libya attack was caused by a video instead of terrorism. My dad had two great sayings; "Some people are like old prospectors' mules, they have to be hit between the eyes with a two-by-four to get their attention!" and "You can't put brains where there aren't any!" It's sadly obvious that high unemployment, unsustainable national debt, out of control government spending, shredding of the Constitution and other treasonous actions by B. Hussein were not big enough two-by-fours, but give it time...the pansy leftists, "Kool-aid drinkers," mindless liberals and "gimme girls" will start screaming bloody murder when their free-bees disappear for lack of funding!

Kerri Bachler-Connor

What the people voted for was an end to the greed. People get rich off the backs of those working minimum wage and the thanks they give them? Lay offs instead of cutting into their outrageous profits? How long do they think that will last? The PEOPLE aren't putting up with this crap anymore. You lay off people at places like restaurants, customer service dives, people don't go there anymore. All they are doing is hurting themselves. They want to punish the "little guy"? Shooting themselves in the foot is more like it.

michael errington

If obamacare was any good at all the lawmakers would have the same as the rest of us...should have been a warning sign to some people, but when dems wont let military vote and illegals are allowed to vote this country is history... well it was a good idea being free but it is all over now smart people in us should have had more oversight as to what these criminals were doing to our country

betty white

So, I need to ask a question about this whole blame the "spear-chucker" thing? When you make comments like that, do you only see Obama's skin color? Or does the fact that he was raised by whites (his mom and grandparents) and his biological father did nothing for him during his life but make him 1/2 black mean anything?

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Rose Adwell

Oh stop with the feighn racist remarks already I am sick to death of being called a racist for every damn thing that is said. You are dividing everyone just the way Obama did when he came to power and demonizing the rich and on and on and on.

Betty Busiek

If only the companies laying people off would lay off the people with Obama Biden bumper stickers it would help to stop the money flow to the liberals. In the meantime, conservatives need to stick together and help each other because tough times are ahead.

wayne boothby

How about moderates taking over and starting a third party, God knows we outnumber all the fringe as a whole, but we keep getting fed a steady diet of Ultra left or right choices......

Gary Emch

I want to remind everyone that along with the layoffs there will be a rise in crime. Obama wants to disarm every law abiding citizen and is pushing his agenda very hard right now. I have heard from federal and state law agents that there is a civil war coming very soon now. It is going to get nasty but maybe that is the only way we can fix this mess. If we do not fight back we will lose our nations foundations. Every law abiding citizen will be an easy mark for the criminals. I hope to God many of you out there are like me and willing to stand up and fight in any manner it takes to defend our rights and freedoms against government tyranny.
I like many of my fellow veterans am disabled due to my military service. Regardless how disabled I am I will fight the best I can to uphold the oath I took years ago. I only hope my fellow Americans who didn't serve will be at our side.

Gary Emch

Here is another interesting example of how the Obama Administration has made a first in our nations history!

Subject: CNBC Exec’s Children Murdered, 1 Day After CNBC Reports $43
Trillion Bankster Lawsuit
This should be of interest to all.

By JG Vibes
October 27, 2012

This week financial news organization CNBC gave some mainstream attention to
the largest money laundering and racketeering lawsuit in United States
History, in which “Banksters” and their U.S. racketeering partners are
being accused of laundering of 43 trillion dollars worth of ill gotten gains.

The lawsuit is said to involve officials located in the highest offices of
government and the financial sector.

Since this information was surprisingly revealed by the mainstream news
organization there has been a very suspicious and deadly fallout at the CNBC

Within hours the original page for the article was taken down, and CNBC
senior vice president Kevin Krim received news that his children were killed
under very suspicious circumstances.

It seems that the murder happened first and then the page was removed later.

According to mainstream accounts the children’s nanny is responsible for
the murders, allegedly stabbing both children.

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However, those same mainstream news sources report the highly unlikely story
that the nanny slit her own throat just after committing the homicides.

Police have released very little information and although a wider plot has
not been officially implicated, it seems very possible that these murders are
a show of force against the press organization for releasing such damning
information about the most powerful people in the world.

Here is some more information about the lawsuit from the Wall Street Journal:

“In the District Court lawsuit, Spire Law Group, LLP — on behalf of home
owner across the Country and New York taxpayers, as well as under other
taxpayer recompense laws — has expanded its mass tort action into federal
court in Brooklyn, New York, seeking to halt all foreclosures nationwide
pending the return of the $43 trillion ($43,000,000,000,000.00) by the
“Banksters” and their co-conspirators, seeking an audit of the Fed and
audits of all the “bailout programs” by an independent receiver such as
Neil Barofsky, former Inspector General of the TARP program who has stated
that none of the TARP money and other “bailout money” advanced from the
Treasury has ever been repaid despite protestations to the contrary by the
Defendants as well as similar protestations by President Obama and the Obama
Administration both publicly on national television and more privately to the
United States Congress.

Because the Obama Administration has failed to pursue any of the
“Banksters” criminally, and indeed is actively borrowing monies for Mr.
Obama’s campaign from these same “Banksters” to finance its political
aspirations, the national group of plaintiff home owners has been forced to
now expand its lawsuit to include racketeering, money laundering and
intentional violations of the Iranian Nations Sanctions and Embargo Act by
the national banks included among the “Bankster” Defendants. “

Some of the alleged conspirators are Attorney General Holder, Assistant
Attorney General Tony West, the brother in law of Defendant California
Attorney General Kamala Harris, Jon Corzine (former New Jersey Governor),
Robert Rubin (former Treasury Secretary and Bankster), Timothy Geitner,
Treasury Secretary, Vikram Pandit (recently resigned and disgraced Chairman
of the Board of Citigroup), Valerie Jarrett (a Senior White House Advisor),
Anita Dunn (a former “communications director” for the Obama
Administration), Robert Bauer (husband of Anita Dunn and Chief Legal Counsel
for the Obama Re-election Campaign), as well as the “Banksters”
themselves, and their affiliates and conduits.

It is expected that all news on this subject will be removed from CNBC, and
that other news organizations will be discouraged from covering such

However, screen shots of the original CNBC article were taken to verify the
authenticity of this story.

Assassination and brute intimidation are common strategies for the ruling
class to use on people who may threaten their agenda.

This is the second situation this week in which a high level executive was
the victim of a suspicious attack that seemed very much like an

The Intel Hub just reported that Nicholas Mockford, a 60 year old British
executive for the oil company ExxonMobil was shot dead in front of his wife
in an assassination-style killing in Brussels.

Gary Emch

Lynne, if you don't like the way Ranny states something then don't read it. I'm tired of your type "oh it hurts my feelings" cry babies who have taken the backbone out of our system. Take a look at the reported black mobs who are killing and injuring whites. I guess its alright for a gang of five to ten cowards to jump one person because he is white. I grew up in the south east and remember the racial riots. I remember well how the mobs of blacks threw stones at the school buses that were trying to get us out of the danger. We had to duck down as the windows were broken and I remember many of my friends who were injured by the stones they were throwing at us. Believe me there is a lot more I can say about what happened when I was a young kid. I have met too many people living in other parts of the nation who never experience race riots whine about others opinions. If you were never exposed to racial hate and danger then do yourself a favor and keep your mouth shout! I can't stand people who know about something they never experienced.

Confusion Reigns


And I'd encourage that you educate each person you layoff as to EXACTLY why you are laying them off. Due to legislation proposed by the current president it has increased your expenses to such a point that keeping them on no longer makes economic sense. Careful though, I imagine if the layoffs are too minority heavy we will begin to see a tidal wave of lawsuits, of course liberal heavy trial lawyers will love that.

Deborah Glasser

If you think medical Rationing has not begun. You are not on Medicare. Brain surgery is a thing of the past. After 2 years my brain tumor was finally diagnosed but no surgery. It seems brain surgery on medicare is not a reality, no even a idea. The neurologist has no intentions of preforming a surgery he will never be paid for. Soilent Green is here and Obama care with it. What next, death camps???

joyce ostering

I ask all of you -- why we must except this ? i agree that after the supreme court decision and now the election of obama is so hard to even think about fighting anymore but what else can we do? I and all of you feel so helpless right now but I just don't want to stop fighting to get rid of this monstrocity!!! Should we wait until it becomes so out of control ? - because it will -- it will run out of money and rations will be the inevitability - we all know this .. But when I look at my kids and family --- I say to myself --- is there something else we can do or try ? i just don't know and am so upset as everyone else is!! Sorry of my venting but I just don't want to give up!!

Derrek Brown

i gotta say even tho i voted libertarian (Gary Johnson) i would have gladly voted romney if i thought he had a chance, i just joined in on trying to get a 3rd candidate on our ballots so maybe someone elses lies could have been heard who is not out to just make the first of his kind in office the worst of his kind in office. if we get another black president atleast he can say "im not as bad as that guy" lol

Ann Wilson Kingsley

Romney reneged on eliminating ObamaCare after he was nominated: He just wanted his own plan, so things would not have been a whole lot different. Plus, all of the financial analysts who are not Keynesians have been pointing out that we are already in a second recession. That Romney could change what has already been done was a pipe dream. If we take the hit and get rid of most of the Federal Government then we suffer for awhile, but we have a chance at a better economy. Medicare and Medicaid badly need to be revamped: All yearly physicals need to be eliminated, and AFDIC checkups need to be eliminated with the exception of those that are for the purpose of immunization or prevention of problems that will be of greater cost to society. For instance, checking pregnant women for breach birth prior to delivery, so that breach birth or the expense of cesarean births can be eliminated. Yes, breach births can be eliminated by simply burning moxa on the little toe according to Doctors of Oriental Medicine. Rehab for stroke trauma victims is the most efficacious medicine available, but both Medicaid and Medicare now refuse all but minimum rehab. Lack of functionality in limbs forces people into nursing homes and on Social Security. True to form our government, the same as any Socialist government does not understand how to allocate resources.

Chris Mayes

Guys, I own a car dealership in Norman,Oklahoma. I have 58 fulltime employees with a average wage of 55k a year. I will be cutting my work force to 48 next week. One thing the government doesn't get is that I'm not going to make less money for a government program. So we'll adjust, cut pay, reduce employment counts etc....I've worked 7 days a week my whole life to get here and the new health care law will cost us way to much money.

toomas titus

Chris, I to am a small business owner and it appears that a lot of the feedback on this forum are from people that are not business owners. Your point of working 7 days a week is well taken, we make what we earn, no more or less. Paying more taxes on top of Obamacare will impact all small businesses. The people that say we should pay more taxes should walk in our shoes for awhile. What most people don't understand has to do with business expansion. If I decide to expand to a new location, every penny I make there will be taxed at my current rate, not at the lowest rate and then if I go over 50 employees I will get taxed even more.

Lisa Gilkey

Well this election has taught alot of people a thing or two hasn't it. While focusing on 7 to 12 swing states. We the people forgot about the rest of the country. I live in Kentucky 3,037,153 reg. voters 1,799,037 voted that left 1,238,116 that did not vote. If I had not know there was election going on I probably would not voted either very few signs no vists. No commercials.
So instead of focusing on swing states you need to start focusing on your state. We have two more chances of getting the Whitehouse and the senate back. I got an email that said Mrs.Obama was going to run in 2016. So look at the fight on our hands then. The first black woman pres. Oh GOD Help us.

Deborah Glasser

No.NO NO... It must stop. Pol POT Obama bi Laden must STOP.

Richard E Marion

Eloquent Journalism. Richard E Marion.


I voted for Romney last week and was shocked when he lost. I knew it meant that we the people were officially screwed and tied to a sinking ship. But I'm okay with it now... True there are many of us that don't deserve any of this but there are many more (the ones who sat it out and the ones that actively voted for Obama) who richly deserve this, all of this and I for one am going to take my joy from watching every last one of them suffer.

carl goodson

@ Jesse Beckton. I suggest you read "Rethinking the American Union" By Bob Livingston. He proposes several ways in which to carve the union into smaller seperate unions that would offer better representation in Washington D.C. but still retain the Federal government for protection and treaties.

Eugene Pennington

The HALF of the country who are Morons and voted this Illegal Anti American Anti Business Incompetent Socialist BACK in office after ALL the Destruction he has already done, either have the IQ of a GNAT or are TRAITORS! NOW the rest of us who have some SENSE, are going to have to suffer JOBLESS along with the ones who DESERVE what they voted for!!! DESPICABLE!!! IMPEACH!!

Alan Whitney

This is an easy fix. All Dear Leader needs to do, is to pass a law banning lay-offs. Or maybe he can do it as a Presidential edict, whatever they're called...

Don't worry; be happy!

Eugene Pennington

The ONLY executive orders ole barry writes are to take OUR freedom and liberty away, that's ALL that he cares about, being a wannabe DICTATOR! With the help of the MORONS who voted for him, it's NOW much closer!! Thanks IDIOTS!! Don;t think you won;t have to suffer for your Ignorance, along with the rest of us!!!

Scott Wallberg

As reported today:

The impact of Obamacare on small businesses will prove to be disastrous. Mostly, because small business owners have no idea what the true impact will be. Therefore, the uncertainty will cause them to retrench rather than invest. This in turn will impair any economic recovery.

Consider that small businesses make up 99.7% of America’s economy. They account for 50% of all non-farm Gross Domestic Product, 65% of all new net jobs, and 44% of the nation’s total payroll. This alone should cause those in government to consider carefully before they make a decision that might threaten their livelihood. (U.S. Small Business Administration)

Small businesses grow gradually in most cases. However, federal laws, including Obamacare, place thresholds which, when crossed, trigger additional regulations. Obamacare kicks in when a business employs 50 workers. Thus the incentive to grow beyond that point takes careful consideration. Is the expansion worth the expense? Who wants businessmen even thinking along those lines?

The law seriously threatens workers as well because businesses do not wish to employ more than 50 employees. They may be inclined to lay-off workers to get below that number or fail to hire workers for fear of approaching that number. In addition, businesses do not have to cover those who work less than 30 hours per week. A drive to reduce full-time workers to part-time status will likely result in order to reduce the impact of healthcare requirements. Result: workers will suffer and unemployment will remain high.

Businesses also will have to calculate the math relating to employment. One would think that having 50 employees is simple. Just count your workers. But that is too simple for government. Obamacare has devised the FTE (Full-Time Equivalency) formula for calculating employment the same way colleges do for enrollment. It makes little sense in either case.

This is a formula that simply states that a “full-time employee” works 2,080 hours a year. Thus businessmen must take the total number of hours worked by all employees and divide that number by 2,080 to calculate the number of FTE employees. It has little to do with real people or real employment rolls!

Thus if you have 40 employees who work overtime, after the overtime is calculated by the formula you may actually have 50 employees by FTE. Does this count overtime as time and a half? Who knows? Only government could create such a perverse system.

Also, the federal government has other regulations with other guidelines. Will these also apply to Obamacare? Government has a habit of not counting the total number of employees currently working, but adds in those who have quit or been fired. Under these regulations, if you have 40 employees on the payroll to run your business, but over the year ten have been replaced after being fired or leaving work, those former employees are still added to the mix.

Between this formula and the FTE formula, businesses with small numbers of “real” workers may find that their “government calculated payroll” is significant larger than it really is. A business may then fall under the Obamacare guidelines and the employer will be responsible for having had insurance or pay fines.

The real trick comes in at the end of the year. Because it is only then that an employer can calculate his number of workers and the hours worked. If a businessman suddenly discovers that he has crossed the threshold…he will likely be fined because he did not insure his employees as the law requires. The fact that he had no way of knowing the number of employee FTEs until year’s end is no defense. He broke the law…he pays the penalty!

This is only one reason why small businessmen will reduce the hours worked by each employee and reduce the number of workers on the payroll because of Obamacare. The response will make recovery more difficult, unemployment intractable, and the economy falter.

Businessmen need certainty to invest. Instability and uncertainty cause them to hold back on investments and expansion. Penalties for business expansion are counter- productive, but remain a key element in Obamacare and all government regulations.

The above is only one problem with this piece of legislation. It could only be devise by people who possess no knowledge of business operations… people who live in the abstract world of social and economic theories and possess few practical life experiences.

Such policies lie at the root of the Greek crisis and at the core of America’s growing economic problem!!!


Exit polling revealed nearly 50% of voters still blame Bush for our current economic woes. What's to prevent a bias media from puttng the same spin on the 2016 election ?


I know three business owners who voted for Obama. The two just started their businesses, the third has been in business for years. The one who has been in business for years has watched his business shrink in the past two years. So why did he reelect the man in charge? Because according to his twisted and brainwashed thinking, his business was failing because bush had been a terrible president and had ruined the economy. Forget the fact that during bush's term his business was doing fine. No doubt he will lose his business at some point during obama's second term and I'm sure it will still be a republican's fault. It's people like this that deserve what they get. They are willfully ignorant.

Karen Mathers

Come on folks. Stop the name calling BS!! We can disagree on adult terms here. A good business owner said this about the election, "The last 4 presidencies have been 2 terms. A new man comes into the WH not knowing who's who, let alone where to find the toilet. The 1st 2 yrs are learning the ropes. The next 2 yrs are campaigning for his 2nd term. So 4 yrs nothing is getting done for the US. It is the 2nd term that we see results of the man continuing in office. Had MR been elected over BO than another 4 yrs would have gone by with nothing being done. US cannot afford that. At least BO will move us one way or the other instead of stagnating for another 4 yrs while MR is figuring things out." I voted MR. However this discussion gave me a different take on things. My friend is correct in his thinking.


Good luck with that! Are you signed up for your food stamps? And did you get your free phone? I wish the only thing Obama did during his first term was search for the white house toilet. He's been a disaster and 100 years from now people will be wondering what the hell we were thinking when we a) elected Obama and then b) reelected him.

Scott Wallberg

Where to start. Unfulfilled campaign promises? Golfing instead of attending the PDB's? Turning our Great Nation into one of divisiveness? Ignoring Israel? Covering up Benghazi? Biased MSM coverage? 20 upcoming taxes (5 next year alone) to fund Obamacare, of which the majority of Americans oppose? Eroding our Constitutional rights? Redistribution from those that produce to those that 'deserve their fair share'? Increasing our debt despite his pledge to cut it in half. Higher unemployment then when he took office. Unconstituinally using recess appointments whie Congress was still in session? Stagnant economy despite his 'stimulus' which his Dem appointed 'overseers' stopped reporting on after the 1st quarter of 2011, at which time the 'net' jobs created cost taxpayers $268,000 each. Should I even mention his promise of 5 million 'green' jobs alone? (there are more failures than Solyndra that have gone unreported) Erosion of our currency. But thats OK ... its all Bush's fault. It's not a racist issue, its one of lies and deceipt. What perturbed me more than the popular vote was the Electoral vote as these are the people we elect to represent us. I will conclude on referencing 'Atlas Shrugged' by Ayn Rand (1957).
From Wikipedia.....
The book explores a dystopian United States where many of society's most productive citizens refuse to be exploited by increasing taxation and government regulations and go on strike. The refusal evokes the imagery of what would happen if the mythological Atlas refused to continue to hold up the world. They are led by John Galt. Galt describes the strike as "stopping the motor of the world" by withdrawing the minds that drive society's growth and productivity. In their efforts, these people "of the mind" hope to demonstrate that a world in which the individual is not free to create is doomed, that civilization cannot exist where every person is a slave to society and government, and that the destruction of the profit motive leads to the collapse of society. The protagonist, Dagny Taggart, sees society collapse around her as the government increasingly asserts control over all industry.

Are we not there?

Joe Ross

Well said Scott Wallberg

Conrad Dost

The fact is that Obama chose to keep the country in recession. He wanted to create poverty and unhappyness because it will help him implement his fundamental change to the country. Progressives are transform our country into a fascists statist state where they control every aspect of our society.

Obama chose Keynesian economic policies that have never worked and he proved that they never work again. If he had really wanted to turn the economy around and bring back prosperity he would have worked to improve the business climate like JFK and Reagan did. He isn't stupid. He knew what he was doing and he wanted failure because the destruction of our country is much easier with it's apparent failure.

Scott Wallberg

Good start Joe. I agree at arge, would have voted Gary Johnson but that would be a vote against Romney, lesser of 2 evils. I posted this elsewhere awhile ago:

We must stop condoning this invasion on our freedom and constitutional rights. Fight THEM from within; take away from what the redistibutors want to redistribute. Employers stop hiring, individuals liquidate market holdings before increased taxes take effect, pull out of the stock market and hold gold and cash ,even at a reduced rate of return. Boycott the MSM (print and TV) by dropping cable TV, stop purchasing biased print media and stop buying tickets for and watching any professional sporting events where they draw most revenue from. . Boycott any organization that contributed toward O's reelection. Lets fight THEM from within! If you cut off the blood supply, maybe just maybe their fallacy will be exposed. We might have lost the fight, but the war is not over. We are cerebral; would like to think everyone does the proper research, examines the facts, and casts their vote. What happened here was a vote of devisiveness, entitlement and ignorance. Unfortunately, as recents facts show, this is an increasing voice within our voting population (P.S. whats wrong with voter ID). ObamaCare alone intruduces 20 new taxes, 5 next year alone, and led to increased sales of businesses in the last 12 months due to the erosion of favorable tax rates and increased medical costs. 19000 new IRS agents will be added to interpret 2700 pages of new regualtions from Obamacare alone. Our exploding 'Farm Bill' subsidizes free cell phones and 'green energy' research. It's time to stop this madness.

Joe Ross

You know I have been reading everyone's comments with disgust. Most of you are just pointing fingers, dems pointing fingers at republicans, republicans pointing fingers at dems. Wake up America. The true bottom line that is wrong with this country started shortly after the Great Depression. To be more exact, the Baby Boomer Generation. This country is over populated, under educated, full of Career Politicians, and Greed.

Yes this country was born on hard work, but it was hard work for the poor and the rich alike, and the two classes co-existed. Not with out its problems, but things were better off then, because greed was not as big of factor it is now.

Democrats and Republicans both have raped and pillaged this country with certain laws. For the most part it has separated, with a large gap, the difference between the poor and the rich. Now I am not saying the rich should carry the poor, but damn, there is alot of selfishness going around.

I am not a true supporter of Obama, but to be honest with you, Romney was no better, no matter who you voted for, this country was going to get screwed. Romney screwed MA when he was Governor there, why you think they didnt even vote for him.

For you Bush supporters, do not forget Bush Jr even stated he was happy to be voted in during a recession, and happy he ended his last term while still in a recession.

However that is a whole different agenda. To get back on topic.

Cant say for sure if Obama Care would work, traditionally it could, it works in Canada. However greed plays a big factor here. The companies that are laying off thousands, and shifting their workforce to a PT status is just plain wrong, they can afford it, and if you know accounting and or taxes, you know damn well they can afford it, its all tax deductible as a business operation. So my opinion is, they refuse to help the situation. In easiest terms, if your not part of the solution then your part of the problem. That is what overall will send this country to a depression. GREED!!! But its ok, one of two things can happen. One companies close their doors because no one can buy or use their products, because they laid off the work force. Or two they will close their doors because they turned their back on the people in a time of need. And the people survive by becoming entrepreneurs.

The only way this country will ever get back on its feet is if we stand united. Not divided like we have been.