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NTU: "The Opt-Out Cop Out"
Andrew Moylan, over at National Taxpayers Union, notes a serious problem with Sen. Reid's new health care plan and the supposedly optional public option.
But here's the fine print:
"Those taxes and others required to fund the $6 billion public option would be collected from all states, including those that opt out of the plan."Read that one more time. The massive tax increases associated with this bill, on the order of a half-trillion dollars, will apply to EVERYONE regardless of whether or not their state has opted out. There is no comfort in the opt out provision, no shelter from the tentacles of government reaching inexorably into our health care decisions. Why opt out if you'll have to pay all the taxes but get none of the services (inefficient though they may be)?
Read the whole thing.
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October 29, 2009 - 10:11pm
How do u feel about the house version that came out today
And haven't they get rid of the public options
October 28, 2009 - 7:03pm
so r they trying to make health care non-profit
October 28, 2009 - 9:29pm
The public option would be non-profit
October 28, 2009 - 6:36pm
i dont have time to read over 1000 pages of garble
cost is different than price is it not so while they keep deliberating over the cost of health care that means nothing about how much the people will have to pay
October 28, 2009 - 6:48pm
If you have not read the bill how do you know it does not mention illegal immigrants? You can't use the "if a tree fell in the woods and no one was around to hear it" argument.
Cost is more important than price. If plan holders were to pay $0 because of massive tax incentives then the government has to foot the entire bill of ensuring these people which comes out to about $7500 per year per person. Where would they get the money from? You think our deficit is bad now? Its just not a sustainable idea.
The reason the overall costs of healthcare in every other industrialized nation is half what they are in the US is that is that they all have a form of a universal, government sponsored health care system. What this does is get rid of all the costs of marketing, executive pay, profits, and plan-holder billing which comes out to about half of the expenditures of a private insurance company.
October 28, 2009 - 5:14pm
why not give tax incentives to the people that don't have health care. give the tax breaks and let the people who want health care from then buy into it people that still don't want health insurance would not receive the tax incentives everybody wins. Taxing everyone even if they don't use the plan,this so called "opt out option" sound a little fuzzy to me and what about illegal aliens no where in any bill has it stated clearly that " any one not born or naturalized legally in this country will not receive this government run health care
October 28, 2009 - 6:16pm
So have you actually read the entirety of the Bill? If so where did you get this from?
However HR 3200 does explicitly state on p 143:
And your idea about tax incentives do nothing to control the actual realized costs of healthcare. Reducing the tax burden on plan holders just moves that burden to the government in terms of reduced revenue.
October 28, 2009 - 2:50am
What is the problem with focusing on making health care affordable not mandatory for everyone. Of the 12 million people that don't have health insurance and don't want it that is there decision me being one of them. All of these health care plans that are coming from the progressive ideologies are atrocious to say the least.
October 28, 2009 - 2:00pm
Its not mandatory - its a public OPTION and has nothing to do with the mandate imposed by the Baucus Bill.
October 27, 2009 - 4:58pm
This is just provides an incentive for states to provide a public option.